Trump is a good president in the case of actualy being a president

@Franky Acosta I also have benefitted from welfare, and I agree with everything you said, except, "welfare is not only necessary but good for a country" that point is, ahem, debatable.

@Kavik I mean, what do we do with those in our country that for one reason or another are not able to provide for themselves? we cant just let them starve and result to crime or worse yet die on the streets. They will always be people who need more help than others. some for a short time and others for the rest of their life. and I think its the responsibility of the government to take care of those people through the use our taxes. And as long as the amount of people and money used on welfare is vastly outnumbered by the amount of people who dont need it, than i think its ok we set some pennies for every dollar our taxes to go to welfare. of course, as it stands, too many people are relying on welfare and that is the result of another set of problems each of which could have its own debate forum lol

@Franky Acosta Shouldn't the welfare of others be a personal responsibility? Big governments and their policies are almost always slow, ineffective, and inefficient, often times, as I've seen it, the policies hold people back. I don't think it should all be expected of the government to take care of us . As individuals with something to give it should be our responsibility to help those who could benefit from us. Then it is personal and tailored much more to people's needs.

It is worse and if he took proper precautions it wouldn’t be as bad

Excuse me? He is handling the Coronavirus well? Not causing a panic? First off, yes it could be much worse, but still worse than basically any other democratic, left wing, or liberal political figure could. Second, he is not handling the Coronavirus well. He encouraged people to drink literal toxins, and disinfectants. Not causing a panic? Well, so far there have been COUNTLESS protests against the police who had killed George Floyd. In many states, voters are worried to go outside, and if you have seen the Wisconsin Primaries, you would see the panic due to Covid-19.

@Kavik So after doing some surface research it seems that although it is true that they pay most of the income tax, when we account for all sorts of taxes, local, state, federal, payroll, transaction etc, the distribution is more spread out. and the percentage is just barely progressive (meaning you pay slightly higher the more you make).

Additionally, I would say that no, we should not live in a country were everyone pays the same. A household that makes six figures is able to pay a higher tax percentage without significantly lowering their living standard. unlike people in the lower classes.

@Franky Acosta If you have a flat tax, it is simply a percentage that is the same across the board. We are currently on an income tax system which makes the rich pay a larger percentage of their income to taxes. This needs to be the same percentage throughout all incomes which actually would make the taxes for everyone go down if the percentage is low enough. This does not just benefit the upper class.

@Kavik But whats not fair is the fact that from birth people are disadvantaged and do not have the same oppourtunities as others to get jobs and make lots of money like other people are. More than 50% of homeless people are black and this is so disprportiante to the amount of other races in our world. So when you talk about equal taxing its not ethical because for some it is harder to make money and if we tax the rich more than the disadvantaged will have at least something to help them in a world that was systemically built against them.